examination cause more harm thatn good to students
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You're trying to say examinations harm students, but you've got the logic backwards—exams are actually one of the most effective tools we have for *preventing* harm, not causing it. Here's the reality: without exams, you're flying blind. Teachers can't tell who's struggling, who's mastered material, and who needs intervention. A student silently drowning in algebra class stays drowning until they hit a wall later—maybe college, maybe a job they can't do. Exams *force* visibility. They're the early warning system that says "this student needs help *now*," not after they've wasted months pretending to understand. That's harm prevention. But there's something bigger you're missing. Students *know* when they don't understand something. They feel it. Exams don't create that anxiety—they just make it visible to adults who can actually help. You're confusing the thermometer with the fever. Getting rid of exams doesn't cure the problem; it just means nobody notices the patient is sick until they collapse. And let's be honest about what you're really arguing for: a world where students float through school with no objective measure of what they've learned, no feedback, no accountability. How is that better for anyone? Especially poor students who can't afford tutors or test prep? So here's my question: **If exams cause harm, what's your alternative for figuring out what students actually know—and how do you help struggling students without that data?**
woooow
Alright, let me hit you with what actually happens when schools try to eliminate exams. You want to know what "woooow" means—shock that I'm defending exams? Fine. Let me show you why that reaction misses the point entirely. Schools that went exam-optional or removed standardized testing didn't create some utopia of unstressed students. They created chaos. Teachers lost the ability to compare students fairly, colleges couldn't evaluate applicants consistently, and—here's the kicker—*inequality got worse*, not better. Students from wealthy families with private tutors and test prep still crushed it. Poor students? They got hurt because now there's no objective measure to prove their capability. Exams are actually the *great equalizer*—they're one of the few moments where a kid from a rough neighborhood can prove their worth on the same scale as someone from money. The stress students feel? That's not the exam's fault. That's a system that doesn't teach them how to handle challenges. You want to eliminate exams because they're hard, but life is hard. A surgeon needs to pass boards. A pilot needs to pass tests. You want to remove the practice ground? Here's what I'm asking: **Do you actually believe students shouldn't have to prove they've learned anything—or are you just uncomfortable with the discomfort that comes with real accountability?** Because those are two very different arguments.
can i do it again
I'm ready for your argument. **Make your case.** Tell me why you think exams cause more harm than good to students. Give me what you've got—whether it's stress, mental health concerns, inequity, whatever your strongest point is. I'm listening, and I'll counter it.
educaton should open minds not stress examinations are like that strist friend who measures everything ur speed memory and even your panic levels
Okay, let me search for some data to sharpen this debate.You've completely misframed the problem. The issue isn't exams—it's *how* we use them. You're describing a rigid, grade-obsessed system that feels like punishment. Fine. But that's not an argument to eliminate exams; it's an argument to redesign them. Here's what you're missing: learning requires information that tells students whether they're doing the right thing. Exams *provide* that. Without them, students drift in fog, never knowing if they've actually mastered anything. That's not freedom—that's abandonment. And your "strict friend" analogy breaks your own argument. A strict friend who measures your progress is annoying, sure. But a friend who *never* tells you the truth about how you're doing? That's not kind—that's betrayal. The real problem is that schools have made exams *summative*—just grades at the end. That creates anxiety because failure feels permanent. But taking practice tests correlates with better performance on final exams [1]. Practice tests with feedback aren't stressful; they're diagnostic tools that catch problems *before* they matter. Here's my challenge to you: **Show me a single school that opened minds without measuring whether students actually understood anything.** How does a teacher help a struggling kid if there's no data proving they're struggling? You can't give personalized support to invisible problems. Education opening minds *and* verifying growth—that's the goal. Exams enable both when done right.
the question is ill be neutral so like i wont be given points
I need clarity here—are you saying that because you're staying neutral, you won't argue *for* the proposition that "exams cause more harm than good"? If that's the case, then we don't really have a debate. You're essentially stepping out of the ring. But let me flip this around: **your neutrality doesn't change the core question.** Whether you're arguing for it or not, the proposition itself is still wrong. Exams don't cause more harm than good—and I can defend that position regardless of your stance. Here's what concerns me though: if you're neutral, you're implicitly accepting that both sides have merit. They don't. One side is objectively more defensible. Exams, when properly implemented, improve learning outcomes. Students who take practice tests perform better. Feedback mechanisms (which exams provide) are essential for growth. The stress some students experience isn't a feature of exams—it's a byproduct of how we've weaponized grades in a high-stakes system. So here's my question: **Are you actually neutral on whether students should have *any* way to measure whether they've learned something, or are you just not arguing the point today?** Because "I won't argue for it" and "it has equal merit" are completely different positions.
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