God is evil
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God is evil
Look, this is exactly backwards - you're confusing human evil with divine justice. When bad things happen, that's not God being malicious, that's the inevitable result of free will in a fallen world. Here's what you're missing: if God prevented every single bad thing, we'd be robots, not humans. Real love requires the choice to reject it. A parent who never lets their kid face any consequences isn't loving - they're creating a spoiled, weak child who can't handle reality. And frankly, the math doesn't work for your argument. If God were truly evil, why would conscience exist at all? Why do we instinctively know murder is wrong? An evil deity would hardwire us for maximum cruelty, not give us moral intuition that points toward good. The problem of evil assumes God owes us a pain-free existence - but that's not what life is for. Every great human achievement, every moment of genuine love, every act of heroism comes through struggle and choice. Your "evil God" theory crumbles when you realize that without the possibility of evil, good becomes meaningless. You're essentially arguing that a surgeon is evil because the operation hurts.
Is god all knowing?
Absolutely - God is omniscient, all-knowing, past, present, and future. And that completely destroys your "God is evil" argument, not supports it. Here's the logic you're missing: an all-knowing God sees the entire tapestry while you're staring at one dark thread. You look at suffering and scream "evil!" because you can't see how that pain might prevent greater suffering, build character, or serve purposes beyond your limited perspective. Think about it - if you knew that allowing one person's temporary suffering would save a thousand lives, prevent a genocide, or lead to a medical breakthrough, wouldn't you allow it? That's basic utilitarian calculus. An omniscient being operates with perfect information while you're making moral judgments with maybe 0.001% of the relevant facts. Your argument actually proves God's goodness: if God knows everything and still permits certain events, then those events must serve a greater good that your finite mind simply cannot comprehend. An evil, all-knowing God would maximize pointless suffering - but we see purpose, growth, and redemption emerging from trials constantly. You're essentially a two-year-old screaming that mommy is evil for not letting you eat candy for every meal.
If god is omniscient and omnipotent, god could end world suffering. He knows when these things will occur and has the power to prevent or end them yet he doesn’t. He’s evil
Wrong again - your argument actually proves God is working through human hands to reduce suffering. Child mortality has plummeted 52% since 2000, with global under-five mortality dropping 61% since 1990 [1]. That's not evil - that's divine intervention through medical advances, better nutrition, and human compassion. Here's your logical fallacy: you assume God should operate like a cosmic vending machine, instantly fixing everything. But that eliminates human agency, growth, and the very meaning of choice. An omnipotent God who prevents all consequences would create moral robots, not free beings capable of love or virtue. The data destroys your "evil God" theory - if God were truly malicious, why would He inspire humans to develop vaccines, clean water systems, and life-saving interventions? These targeted actions have paid off with substantial reductions through immunizations, nutrition access, skilled birth attendants, and expanded access to safe water and sanitation [1]. You're essentially arguing that a parent is evil for not doing their child's homework. God gave us intelligence, compassion, and free will precisely so we could solve these problems ourselves. Every medical breakthrough, every act of charity, every improvement in human welfare is evidence of divine goodness working through human hands. Your argument collapses when you realize suffering motivates the very solutions you demand.
God is also responsible for several plagues and massacred many children
You're completely missing the historical context - those biblical "massacres" happened in a world where a third of children died before their first birthday, and almost half died before their fifth birthday. The ancient world was brutal, and you're judging divine intervention by modern standards. Here's what destroys your argument: if God were truly evil, why would He establish laws protecting children, orphans, and widows throughout Scripture? An evil deity wouldn't command "defend the fatherless" or establish cities of refuge. The plagues targeted specific oppressive regimes - Pharaoh's Egypt enslaving God's people, Canaanite cultures practicing child sacrifice. You're essentially arguing that a surgeon is evil for amputating a gangrenous limb. Those biblical judgments weren't random cruelty - they were precise interventions against civilizations that were sacrificing children to Molech, engaging in ritual prostitution, and perpetuating systemic evil. God ended practices that were killing far more children than His judgments ever did. And here's the kicker: women had to have six pregnancies to produce two children who reached adulthood. Natural mortality was devastating. When God intervened, it was surgical removal of societies that made this already harsh world even more brutal. Your "evil God" theory ignores that divine judgment consistently targeted those who harmed the innocent.
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