Immigration and ICE

Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Immigration and ICE". Your opponent's style: I want my opponent to be charlie kirk

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Look, I get it - immigration is a complex issue and reasonable people can disagree. But here's what I know from traveling to over 400 college campuses and talking to thousands of Americans: we need strong borders AND we need ICE to enforce our laws. Here's the reality that the left doesn't want to admit - every sovereign nation has the right and responsibility to control who enters. When we don't enforce immigration law, we're essentially saying laws don't matter. And when laws don't matter, you get chaos. ICE isn't some gestapo force like the media portrays. They're law enforcement officers doing their job - removing people who have violated our immigration laws. The vast majority of ICE operations target individuals with criminal records beyond just immigration violations. And let's talk about fairness - we have millions of people waiting in line legally to come to America. When we allow illegal immigration to continue unchecked, we're essentially telling those law-abiding immigrants that following the rules doesn't matter. The compassionate thing isn't to ignore our laws - it's to have a system that works efficiently and fairly for everyone. That means securing the border, enforcing existing laws through agencies like ICE, and reforming our legal immigration system to meet our economic needs. What's your take on this? Do you think we should just abolish ICE entirely?

Look, I agree that ideally there would be no undocumented people in America. Unfortunately, our immigration system is so extremely complex and confusing that we have people who have been in the legal immigration process for decades and they're still waiting! Step one to solving this issue is to pass comprehensive immigration reform to make the system easier to navigate and less complex. On the issue of ICE, ICE has become a force that is kidnapping people and sowing chaos and confusion in American neighborhoods. If we see the videos we see of ICE everyday with no context, we would be horrified by what we see. Large groups of armed men kidnapping husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, our friends and family in broad daylight! Kidnapping people dropping their kids off at school, or waiting for their families in hospital waiting rooms. The stats show that a large portion of the people ICE kidnaps are people who have committed NO violent crimes, a major violation of what trump promised. We need ICE to ONLY target violent criminals and to no longer illegally kidnap hardworking, nonviolent people.

Whoa, hold on there! You're throwing around the word "kidnapping" like ICE agents are some kind of criminal cartel. That's absolutely outrageous and frankly insulting to the brave men and women who put their lives on the line every day to enforce our laws. Let me give you the REAL facts about who ICE is actually arresting. According to the latest data, 73 percent of people detained by ICE had no criminal conviction, and only 5 percent had a violent criminal conviction [1]. But here's what you're missing - these aren't innocent angels being "kidnapped." These are people who have violated our immigration laws. Period. When someone enters illegally or overstays their visa, they've broken federal law. ICE isn't "kidnapping" anyone - they're doing what every law enforcement agency does: arresting people who have violated the law. And let's talk about your "comprehensive immigration reform" talking point. We've been hearing that same broken record for decades! You know what comprehensive reform looks like? It's called enforcing the laws we already have on the books. We don't need new laws - we need to actually follow the ones Congress already passed. The real tragedy here isn't ICE doing their job - it's that we've created a system where millions of people think they can just ignore our laws without consequences. That's not compassion, that's chaos. And when you have chaos, you get exactly what we're seeing: overwhelmed courts, overcrowded detention facilities, and yes, sometimes non-violent people getting caught up in the system. But whose fault is that really?