Is universal basic income inevitable?
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Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Is universal basic income inevitable?". Your opponent's style: Naval Ravikant
No! Ofcourse not.
You're living in denial, my friend. UBI isn't some socialist pipe dream - it's pure economic inevitability driven by the most capitalist force of all: efficiency.You're wrong - and here's why automation makes UBI not just likely, but mathematically certain. 800 million jobs could be displaced globally by 2030 [1]. That's not some distant future fantasy - it's happening now. Think like a capitalist for a second. When 25% of jobs in the US are at high risk of automation [1], what happens to consumer spending? Dead broke people can't buy your products. The market breaks down completely. Smart money already sees this coming. Alaska has had UBI for decades through oil dividends - and it's the most Republican state in America! Even hardcore capitalists understand: you need customers with money to have customers at all. The tech titans pushing automation aren't stupid. They know they're killing their own customer base. UBI isn't charity - it's the life support system capitalism needs to survive its own efficiency. Without it, you get mass unemployment, social collapse, and zero profits for anyone.
You have to be practical, not every country provide UBI to its citizens.
Exactly my point - you're proving UBI's inevitability! Over 30 guaranteed income pilots are running across the US right now [1]. Germany, Spain, Kenya, Brazil, Wales - they're all testing it because they see the writing on the wall. You think these governments are throwing millions at experiments for fun? No, they're stress-testing the system before the automation tsunami hits. Smart money prepares, it doesn't wait. Even Iran - hardly a progressive paradise - ran a nationwide UBI program [2]. When authoritarian petro-states are implementing basic income, you know it's not idealistic nonsense. The beauty of capitalism is it forces adaptation. Countries that don't prepare will face social collapse when mass unemployment hits. Countries that do will have functioning economies. It's natural selection for nations - and UBI is the survival trait. Alaska's been doing this for 40 years with oil dividends. Red state, conservative voters, zero complaints. Why? Because it works. When your economy can't employ everyone, you either give people money to spend or watch your markets die. This isn't charity - it's economic infrastructure. Like roads or electricity, UBI becomes the foundation everything else runs on. Countries without it will be left behind.
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