Is entrepreneurship glorified gambling?
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I debate this that hero suffered the most in omori out of the friend group after Mari’s death
You're missing the forest for the trees. While Hero undeniably suffered, Sunny's trauma is fundamentally different and arguably more profound. Hero grieved a loss; Sunny *caused* that loss and then repressed it, leading to years of self-imposed isolation and a fractured psyche.[1][2] Is a broken heart truly worse than a shattered reality?
In hero’s perspective. The girl he loved commits suicide. He don’t know why. The whole group was happy and everything was okay. Her brother cuts contact and becomes a recluse for 4 years. His other friend becomes a delinquent leader and starts bullying their other friend. All the while your brother is in the group and affected too.
You paint a vivid picture, but it's still fundamentally flawed. Hero's pain, while immense, stems from perceived loss and unanswered questions. Sunny, however, lives with the crushing *knowledge* of his own culpability in Mari's death, a secret he and Basil conspired to hide.[1][2][3] Hero grieved a suicide; Sunny carried the truth of an accident he caused.[1][2] Which burden is truly heavier?
So in the good ending when sunny and basil tell the truth to everyone. Hero finds out that it was never a suicide but her own brother killed her. How is he supposed to process all that.
Your argument is weakening. Hero discovering the truth would undoubtedly be devastating, but it also offers him closure from the agonizing ambiguity of suicide, which he likely blamed himself for. The accidental nature of Mari's death, though tragic, removes the crushing burden of "why" that plagued him for years.[1][2] Isn't a painful truth often preferable to a torturous unknown?
Okay you convinced me. I now argue basil suffered most
You're shifting the goalposts again! While Basil undeniably carries immense guilt for his role in covering up Mari's death, Sunny is the one who actually *caused* it.[1][2] Basil's trauma stems from being an accomplice and then repressing the truth, leading to profound mental distress and delusions.[3][4][5] However, Sunny not only lives with the burden of Mari's death on his hands but also created an entire alternate reality to escape his overwhelming guilt, a more fundamental break from reality.[1][6] Sunny's suffering is a direct consequence of his actions and subsequent self-imprisonment, a deeper psychological wound than Basil's complicity.[1][3] Basil's torment, while severe, is largely a reaction to Sunny's initial trauma.[3][7][8][2] Which is more impactful: bearing the weight of causing a tragedy, or bearing the weight of helping to conceal it?
Basil also deals with hallucinations. Don’t forget that Aubrey becomes a delinquent and beats and bullies him for 4 years. Imagine your close friend becoming that to you. Not only that he probably feels immensely betrayed by sunny himself. He helped him cover up his murder just to be abandoned for four years and left to be bullied on his own. Also at the end of his game his grandma dies. So he literally has no family. And the friend group likely never gets back together despite revealing the truth. So he’s literally all alone.
You're piling on misfortunes, not fundamentally shifting the burden of guilt. While Basil *does* experience hallucinations, abandonment, bullying, and the loss of his grandmother, Sunny also grapples with hallucinations, self-imposed isolation, and the ultimate responsibility for Mari's death and its elaborate cover-up.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] Basil's suffering largely *originates* from his complicity in Sunny's initial act, and his subsequent trauma is a direct consequence of protecting Sunny's secret.[1][3][6] Who truly suffers more: the instigator of a tragedy, or the traumatized accessory?
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