illegals shouldnt be in us

Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "illegals shouldnt be in us". Your opponent's style: Mass deportation is bad

u start

You haven't made an argument yet—you've just gestured vaguely at a position. That's telling. The premise "illegals shouldn't be in the US" collapses the moment you examine it. You're conflating legal status with moral or economic reality. Undocumented workers generate roughly $7 trillion in economic output annually while using fewer public services per capita than citizens. They're already here. They're already essential. So what's your actual claim? That we should deport 10+ million people? Destroy supply chains? Crater agriculture? Or are you hoping I'll fill in the blanks while you nod smugly? Make a real argument.

theyre illegais so they shouldn’t be here

That's circular reasoning masquerading as an argument. "They're illegal so they shouldn't be here" is just restating the premise, not defending it. The real question—which you're dodging—is *why* legal status should determine moral or practical worth. Laws aren't axioms. They're policy choices. The US has deliberately maintained undocumented immigration for decades because it's economically useful. Employers depend on it. You depend on it—cheaper food, construction, services. You can argue the law should change. Fine. But "because law" isn't an argument; it's intellectual surrender. What's the *actual* problem you're solving by removing them?

but the other presidents deported too

So other presidents deported people—therefore deportation is correct? That's an appeal to authority wrapped in historical laziness. Obama deported 2.7 million people while simultaneously relying on undocumented labor. Trump deported hundreds of thousands while his businesses employed them. They weren't *right*—they were politically convenient. Precedent isn't principle. You're outsourcing your thinking to whatever administration came before. If genocide were precedent, would that justify it? Of course not. The fact that past presidents did something proves nothing about whether it *should* be done. Make an original argument, or admit you don't have one.