Should Trump be imprisoned?
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Steph Curry is the best point guard by unanimous desicion
Look, I get the Steph worship - the guy revolutionized basketball with that three-point shooting. But "unanimous decision"? That's the kind of hyperbole that makes me want to pull out my producer's notebook and fact-check everything.Here's the thing about your "unanimous" claim - Magic Johnson won 5 NBA championships and 3 Finals MVP awards [1], while also holding the NBA records for average assists per game in both regular season (11.19) and playoffs (12.35) [1]. That's not even close to unanimous when you're talking about the greatest floor general who ever lived. Steph revolutionized shooting, sure, but Magic revolutionized everything else. At 6'9", he could literally play all five positions - as a rookie, he played all five positions in the Finals, scored 42 points, and won Finals MVP [1]. Curry's never done that, never could do that. And here's what really gets me - you want to talk about winning? Magic's Lakers beat Bird's Celtics when it mattered most. Curry needed Kevin Durant to get his titles against LeBron. Magic beat the greatest competition of his era without needing a superteam handed to him. That's not unanimous for Curry - that's Magic proving he could elevate everyone around him in ways Curry simply cannot.
While Magic Johnson’s resume is legendary, the case for Stephen Curry as the greatest point guard rests on a transformation of the game that transcends traditional counting stats. Curry didn't just "revolutionize shooting"; he fundamentally altered the geometry of the basketball court in a way that makes direct comparisons to previous eras difficult. 1. Gravity vs. Assists Magic Johnson holds the records for assist averages, but Curry’s impact on teammates is often invisible in the box score. His "gravity"—the way defenses must commit multiple players to him the moment he crosses half-court—creates wide-open looks for his teammates that didn't exist in the 1980s. Efficiency at Scale: In his 2015–16 unanimous MVP season, Curry joined the 50/40/90 club while leading the league in scoring (30.1 PPG) and steals (2.1 SPG). Magic never reached these scoring heights or efficiency levels. True Shooting: Curry's career True Shooting percentage (62.6%) is significantly higher than Magic’s (61.0%), despite Curry taking much more difficult, high-volume perimeter shots. 2. The "Superteam" Argument The claim that Curry needed a "superteam" while Magic didn't overlooks the Hall of Fame talent Magic played with from day one. The Kareem Factor: Magic played 10 seasons with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, arguably a top-3 player of all time. He also shared the court with Hall of Famers James Worthy and Bob McAdoo. Organic Growth: Curry won his first title in 2015 and his fourth in 2022 with a core group—Klay Thompson and Draymond Green—that was entirely drafted and developed by the Warriors, proving he could win both with and without Kevin Durant. 3. Career Statistical Comparison Based on their career and peak performance through 2026, here is how the two legends compare: Category Stephen Curry Magic Johnson NBA Championships 4 5 League MVPs 2 (1 Unanimous) 3 Finals MVPs 1 3 Career PPG 24.7 19.5 Career APG 6.4 11.2 True Shooting % 62.6% 61.0% Unanimous MVP Yes (Only one in history) No 4. Changing the Definition of "Floor General" Magic was the ultimate "classic" point guard, using size and vision to orchestrate. Curry is the "modern" point guard, who uses the threat of his shot to break defenses before a pass is even made. While Magic could play five positions, Curry’s lack of size forced him to be more skilled; many analysts argue that in a 1-on-1 scenario or a modern "pace and space" environment, Magic would have "no chance in hell" guarding Curry on the perimeter. Ultimately, the "unanimous" claim refers to Curry's 2016 MVP award, a feat never achieved by Magic, Michael Jordan, or LeBron James, cementing that at his absolute peak, he reached a level of dominance that was undeniably complete.
Oh, this is rich! You're throwing around "unanimous MVP" like it settles everything, but let's talk about what Magic actually accomplished with his so-called "superteam." That Lakers roster you're dismissing? Magic played alongside Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, and Jamaal Wilkes - all Hall of Famers [1]. But here's the difference - Magic made those players better, not the other way around. As a rookie in the 1980 NBA Finals, Johnson played all five positions, scored 42 points, and was named NBA Finals MVP [1]. Show me Curry doing that. Your "gravity" argument is pure analytics nonsense that ignores what actually wins championships. Magic didn't need some invisible metric - he literally made the impossible pass that everyone could see. And about that "organic growth" claim - please! The Warriors drafted well, sure, but they still went crying to Kevin Durant when they choked away a 3-1 lead to LeBron. Here's what kills your whole argument: you admit Magic has more championships, more Finals MVPs, and revolutionized the game first. Curry's "unanimous MVP" happened in a season where the Warriors won 73 games and then lost the Finals! That's not greatness - that's the ultimate choke job. Magic never had a collapse like that because when the lights got brightest, he elevated everyone around him to championship level.
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